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Posted 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
if the south had been allowed to go-how long would slavery have lasted in that region-
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Posted 7 Months ago permalink
Cuba emancipated its slaves in 1886, Brazil in 1888 (without a war BTW) The South was heavily dependent on foreign trade. An independent CSA would have been even more so. No nation, especially those so dependent, can survive for long and ignore an almost unanimous world opinion (and world opposition to slavery in the late 19th century was that)

There is no reason to believe that slavery could have lasted for much more than another 20 years had the Southern states been allowed to depart in peace.

Do you think differently?
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Posted 7 Months ago permalink
yeah jim crow worked much better once that was put into place
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago permalink
Mr. Whitney, Mr. McCormick and Mr. Deere were already sounding the death knell of slavery in the US, long before the March 1861 Baltimore Riots, causing first blood in the North/South conflict.
Slavery has to be the most expensive and ineffective of all forms of running farms, plantation or any other operation for that matter.
IMO, slave holders were more worried about how they would handle 27 million freed slaves, then they were about losing their highly expensive to maintain, labor force.
Mechanization would've taken ten to twenty years to push aside the institution of legal slavery, had the war not settled the issue.
Of course it was not until the 1960s, that African-Americans really began, with any clout, to demand and get some semblance of equality in the USA. Ignorant white people kept them down from 1865 through the early 1960s and educated, intelligent white people were only too happy to look the other way. Getting things changed always comes down to who's ox is getting gored!
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago permalink
"slave holders were more worried about how they would handle 27 million freed slaves"

Your point is correct of course but you are a little off in your numbers. There were only about 3 1/2 million slaves in the States that seceded (but of course only around 5 million white folks)
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
not long slavery was dead.
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
Ken W. wrote : "not long slavery was dead. "

Were I a slave in 1860 and you had made that comment, my question would have been; "How long is 'not long' ?" <8^)) I can only imagine that for people willing to risk having their backs flailed for attempted escapes, one more day in bondage was too long!
Ironically, slavery still exist today, in various areas of the world and no one rushes off, risking death to free people in bondage. This fact and the draft riots in the North, during the WBTS, fly in the face of what the history revisionists tell us, in terms of how many millions marched off to the War, to free the slaves in the South.
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
"How long is 'not long' ?"

for the 620,000 Americans* that died it was a helluva while (AKA forever)


*(nearly twice the number of slaves)
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
Where is slavery today in this country? I thought we were talking about slavery in American. In some country there has always been slavery but in American slavery is dead...
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago permalink
99% of the men from the south that marched off to war were not figting for slavery. They were fight for the homes and families.....
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